These are a great selvedge jean for the price. I've had for ~2 years now and they break in nicely. Warning: avoid wearing white shoes with them for the first 6 months or so, as the indigo will start to rub off.

These jeans look great, have that stiff raw denim feel but have little bit of stretch for comfort. The pair I got had high quality buttons unlike what other reviewers said. They were a little tight in the waist so I’d go one inch up from your typical 484 waist size.

Still need to get them broken in. Did an initial soak and have worn them ~10 times. They don't have a ton of stretch, but enough that they aren't cardboard stiff. Haven't had any of the quality issues listed in the comments, so far so good

I love 484 Jeans and I have always been a 30x30. Well, these are different. I couldn't get them closed if I tried. So, I drove to a store and I was told that these are only online, but many guys have the same issue and I need to reorder them two sizes up. She was right. Now you know.

Objectively, Very rough denim that takes multiple wears to break in. There’s nothing “stretch” about the fabric, so I don’t know why it’s in the description. Subjectively, I wish JCrew pants and jeans were an extra inch tapered by the ankle (not jogger extreme). Too much floating fabric for my taste.

These shrank in the dryer so much that it was impossible for me to wear. I absolutely can not and will not wear these ever again. Maybe my fault? They felt two sizes too small.